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Monday  July 17, 2000

If you missed last week's IQ discussion, be sure to see it.


Jerry

You wrote: "Most of us don't use [Access], but there are many things we do that would be easier if we thought in terms of databases. There was a time when dBase II was one of the most popular PC programs around. Access is a more powerful database that is greatly underused. This book is a good introduction to how to make use of a tool most of us have and do nothing with."

Despite the Wizards, Access is difficult to come to grips with for the average user. Much better is Claris FileMaker Pro. Unlike many "originally for the Mac" products it respects right-click context menus. This is truly "the database for the rest of us" and demonstrates that Apple could have competed with MS had they wanted.

I have trained users in both products and FileMaker is at least 3 times quicker [1] to end product and less frustrating for the beginner. It's nowhere near as powerful as Access [2], but then we're not talking multi user, gigabyte databases here.

Jonathan Sturm

[1] I ported my customer tracking and invoice database to Access when I learnt Access. I never did get to the point where the reports were as as easy to create or look as good as the ones in FileMaker, despite spending *lots* more time.

[2] Before the Mac aficianados come down on me for this, I am not trying to demean FileMaker. It's powerful enough for multi-user databases of considerable sophistication. It would also be in *much* wider use if you didn't have to pay a ridiculous amount for the developer version so you can sell run-time apps.

I'll have to try Filemaker. I never have. Thanks.


Hi Jerry,

Security on the Internet is an illusion.

The best metaphor that I have found for the Internet is the old town square on market day.

Logging on to the net is the same as standing on a soapbox in the middle of the square and the shouting to the various vendor stalls and other people on their soapbox. Anybody who wants to listen in can. You can cup your hands, but this is mostly ineffective.

A lesson applies from the real world of security. Every time a newer and better lock is invented, a newer and better lockpick follows close behind. How do you gain access to your car when you lock your keys inside or the electronic locking system fails? You call a locksmith. The tools of the locksmith are also available to you, if you want your own set. You can see where this leads.

Another lesson comes from the world of brick and mortar. Employees come in three flavors. Incorruptibly honest, incorruptibly dishonest, and those that are as honest or dishonest as the system requires. The incorruptibly dishonest take the accountability system as a personal challenge. They will always succeed in cracking the system. The retailer’s only hope is to identify them early and remove them.

There wasn’t much public crime in the old Soviet Union. But there was some and there was even more disguised as government. If you got up on your soapbox there, you soon found that your audience was Siberian. This is the alternative free and public.

The Internet is a public square. Everything about you and everything you say on it is public. If you want something kept private, do not put it on the Internet. This applies to every piece of information about you without exception.

MJB

Well, nothing can prevent a determined burglar, but we can make it hard enough that the burglar will pick on someone else...

Jerry

I've enjoyed your science fiction.

I am in general disagreement with you about Microsoft. I consider them to be detrimental rather than beneficial to the world. I happen to believe Judge Jackson's "findings of fact."

I am in almost complete agreement with you, however, about "Carnivore". What we really need in this situation is a major federal court decision that anyone who releases private information about anyone else that was obtained without a prior court order is guilty of a felony. There shall be NO exceptions. If it is a company that is found guilty, the punishment shall apply individually to each of the top four officers, CEO, COO, CIO, CFO, or their equivalents, and the Board of Directors. The punishment shall be not less than one year in jail and a fine of not less than $100,000.00 plus triple any damages demonstrated by the plaintiff. One half of the fine and all damages shall be awarded to the plaintiff.

The above might provide a respect for privacy. I believe that less will have no effect.

Charles J. Lingo clingo@i-55.com

Jerry

How do Netscape and Real intend to compete with Microsoft if they violate our privacy? I have uninstalled both RealPlayer and NS Navigator, and gone into my registry to manually clean out residual bits. For all their lawbreaking vs their competitors, MS doesn't seem to go quite as far as the "download Demon" (aptly named) in violating our privacy. On the other hand, maybe they don't have to be so blatant . . .

Ed Hume

Jerry,

Have you heard about the lawsuit that CS First Boston filed against 11 Yahoo message board posters who had made disparaging remarks about one of First Boston's equity analysts over on the Elan Corp Yahoo message board? They're suing for a cool $1 million.

Unfortunately, when I tried to check out what the posters had written by checking that Yahoo message board, I got a web page telling me "Sorry, this discussion group hasn't been initialized yet".

Sounds more like the Yahoo lawyers got into the act, if you ask me.

Without passing judgment about the claimed offenses, or any of the parties to the suit, it's interesting just how quickly speech can be surpressed in the new networked world...

- Mark mark@REMOVETHIS STUFF@arcabama.com

 


Bonjour,

The French version of WAIS has just been revised : I'll try to get informations to know if they had to change the level.

AFAIK, the Flynn effect is ... finished in western countries : the new researchs would show an end of the improvement. The best theory I'd read to explain it was the introduction of Television : the rapid succession of images and informations would have improved what is tested by IQ tests. If this is true, and if Flynn effect is indeed finished, we can say that video games don't have the same beneficial effect than TV ! Another idea would be just a better level of alimentation...

This explanation would fit with my conception of intelligence as physical strenght : you have a genetic/prenatal quantity of it, and the environment will help you to modify it a little, weither by under alimentation (to the bottom) or by practising (to the top). The modifications are indeed limited by the genetic card you won at the birth. A Race Car driver had used exactly the same approach to explain me who was good or not in his (dangerous) sport : he told me a beginners would know many improvement while practising, its times would go down, but at one moment he would be blocked, unable to progress. And you'll notice that to be good in car driving is very heritable : think of Villeneuve Father and Son, the two Schumacher, etc. Would you think there is a "Flynn effect" in driving : 115 mph gained by generation per exemple ? In fact it seems we are now very near of the maximum of sports, and that only external products help to go further.

A bientôt,

Philippe

On ne peut avoir a la fois bonne memoire et bonne conscience. (Les choses de la vie Paul Guimard) -- Philippe Gouillou - pg@evopsy.org - http://www.evopsy.org "Les femmes des riches sont belles" : www.evopsy.org/livre.htm


Dear Jerry;

I read Greg Cochran's piece with interest. Alas, he appears to have given this only cursory thought.

Let's assume at the outset that he is right, that this is possible. The question then becomes, how likely is it?

First, before we consider that, let's ask another question: suppose someone did it. What would be the result?

Well, the first thing we might note is that the smarter someone is, the more likely he is to develop his own goals and plans rather than passively accept the goals of anyone else. In other words, if we did end up with 20% of the population of France having an IQ>150, a gigantic increase in the number of geniuses, wouldn't we expect a similarly gigantic increase in the level of independent thought in France? Why assume this army of Quatermasses would all shout "Vive la France!" in unison and march off to fight the Germans?

More likely, they would find they had more in common with other geniuses in Russia and Brazil and even, dare I think it, America than they do with the many subgeniuses currently running France. And that brings up another point: the smarter someone is, the more he will chafe at the constraints of imbeciles: in other words, the more oppressed he will feel by bureaucracy and narrow-mindedness, by the boundaries of polite society. He will naturally gravitate toward that place where he will be most free, where the dolts and poltroons have less control of his destiny.

Again, perish the thought, wouldn't this mean America would suffer, if that's the word I want, from a huge immigration of brainiacs to our shores?

It's hard to see the downside of this. Sure, it would be hard to compete with them; but who says we have to? Even a genius has to hire employees and independent contractors; and besides, being a genius rocket scientist, say, doesn't mean you can play the violin (Einstein couldn't have made the cut at the Garden Grove Symphony, let alone the LA Philharmonic) -- or write an SF novel, for that matter.

A massive influx of intelligence in America, indeed in the world in general, would dramatically improve the economy, and a rising tide lifts (nearly) all boats. These geniuses would likely invent ways to put more people out of work via automation... but such people don't end up sleeping in the streets; most of them end up doing something else, something more productive.

Finally, a city or nation or world of geniuses would likely want people closer to their own level to hang with -- how much to you enjoy conversations with people with "normal" IQs of 100 or so? As much as you enjoy talking to other people as smart as you? Of course not. So these geniuses would have a big incentive to figure out how to make /the rest of us/ smarter, too -- and they'd have greater means of doing so, being smarter themselves already.

There are probably lots of ways to increase the intelligence of adults, either the effective IQ (by eliminating that portion of stupidity induced by correctable programming) or even real IQ itself (genetic resequencing). I don't mind being made smarter in the least. Nor does it bother me that a bunch of people will be smarter than I... since it's already the case, n'est-ce pas? So I would definitely imagine that these supergeniuses would likely bring about an increase of intelligence for all, including Dafydd ab Hugh and Jerry Pournelle. Why not? What have they got to lose? Capitalism isn't a zero-sum game: it's win-win... and the smarter we are, the more products we might want to consume (for the same reason I can sell more of my books to readers than to illiterates).

So at last, let's return to the question of how likely it is that someone would do this. As Cochran suggested, it would have to be some tyrant who controlled the entire structure of society from top to bottom, and did so in such a stable environment that he could undertake a multi-decade program of cloning and culling. But by the very nature of such power, that almost /requires/ a person who is somewhat more intelligent than the norm, but NOT a genius. Hitler was no genius; Stalin was no genius; Mao wasn't, and neither was Pol Pot.

So what we're really speculating about is the liklihood that a great dictator would clone an army of people who were much smarter than he, and more individualistic, harder to control, more independent-minded, and more driven to escape his harsh rule and flee to the Great Satan America, land of the free -- and where the dictator himself is smart enough to understand that that's exactly what he would be doing.

Upon further reflection, I can't imagine that anyone more intelligent than the average would be that dumb, and we're not going to get our army of clone Newtons and clone Mozarts. More's the pity!

Sincerely, --

Dafydd ab Hugh

Typhoon Rips Through Cemetery; Hundreds Dead


Dr. Pournelle:

http://www.theatlantic.com/cgi-bin/o/issues/2000/07/sarewitz.htm 

I think that this article may be too reasonable to convince anyone on either side of the issue. The article notes that many people who want to reduce co2 emissions adopted Global Climate Change as a stick with which to attack their existing enemies. Those opposed to a crash program have all the old objections to restrictions on development.

Somehow, too many environmentalists would rather spank the puppy for soiling the carpet instead of teaching the puppy to go outside. The second choice would be better for everyone, especially the puppy, who has to go *somewhere*.

Regards, Bob Wakefield

- Bob Wakefield bob.wakefield@fnc.fujitsu.com 

It is certainly worth reading. Thanks. I subscribe to The Atlantic although I don't read every issue. But once in a while they have something that pays for the year. They had Greg Cochran last year.  Thanks.

 

 

 

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Tuesday, July 18, 2000

Home. Later...

Re: Privacy

Hmmm. AOL, Netscape and Real Networks all testified for the DOJ during the MS trial. Now their products are covertly gathering information.

One could suppose that this is an offer that they couldn't refuse.

Bill Grigg


 

 

 

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Wednesday, July 19, 2000

Regarding the Atlantic article:

I think the article says both sides waste their efforts. The issue is framed badly, and the debate helps almost nobody but the paid advocates. Either global climate is changing, or it is not. If it is changing, it may be warming or it may be cooling. It seems, recently at least, to be warming. If it is warming, it may be due at least in part to human activity, or it may not. If it really is warming, some people will benefit, and others will suffer.

We do know that humanity is more vulnerable to the effects of bad weather and other environmental disasters than we were in the past. We're a bigger target.

The third world is more vulnerable than the first because it is poorer. Poor countries aren't prepared to withstand and deal with the effects of environmental disasters. Even second world countries like Turkey live so close to the edge that contractors find it cheaper to bribe inspectors than to build to code.

We also know that it's no fun to live downwind of a power plant or a refinery or a pulp mill. (Though you should visit my wife's uncle's pulp mill in Finland!) It can be downright unhealthy. At some point everyone is downwind.

The third world will not give up hope of prosperity to save the environment. They can't. I wouldn't. I would make my people prosperous and *then* worry about the environment. We need to improve the available technology. If the technology truly is better, if it is cheaper and cleaner, then it has market value.

I would like to know what all the various environmental advocacy groups spend on PR, lobbying, and campaign contributions. Then add all the subsidies for things like biomass and wind power. The money might be better spent on directed engineering research for cheaper, cleaner, and less wasteful energy solutions for home, industry, and transportation. The Planetary Society switched from advocating SETI to funding it. Some environmental groups, like The Nature Conservancy, are doing much the same.

Bob Wakefield


I was wondering if you have read about the OICW project. OICW stands for "Objective Individual Combat Weapon". It is intended to replace the M-16 as the standard Army issue weapon.

It is supposed to use 20mm air-burst grenades for attacking the enemy. Here is the idea: A laser range-finder will perfectly measure the distance to the enemy position, and then an extremely accurate time fuze will detonate the grenade right over the enemy's position. The magazine will hold six grenades (compare with a 30-round magazine for the M-16).

Because grenades are not recommended for self-defense at close ranges, the OICW *also* includes a 5.56mm rifle. (The 5.56mm round is overkill for close-in self-defense; use of a smaller round such as 5.7mm x 28 was considered, but they decided to use the standard ammo instead of trying to introduce another new round.)

Add everything up and you have a weapon that weighs 18 pounds! They plan to reduce weight to 14 pounds -- still even heavier than the M-1 Garand. (Proponents of the OICW say that if you put a grenade launcher and a thermal sight on an M-16, it will weigh 20 pounds, so the OICW is a weight reduction, not an increase. But I suspect that the vast majority of soldiers today carry rifles that weigh closer to 7 pounds than 20.)

The OICW will cost $15,000 or so each. I read an analysis in a gun magazine that estimated $20,000 for the parts, but with mass-production the costs should come down. On the other hand, one web page I read showed $10,000 as the planned cost, but given the thermal sight and other expensive goodies, I'll stick with $15,000.

Can a soldier make an effective attack with six or fewer rounds of 20mm air-burst grenades? Can 20mm grenades incapacitate an enemy -- especially if he is wearing light body armor? Can the armed forces really standardize on a weapon that is over twice as heavy as an M-16 and about 30 times more expensive? Will the soldiers be allowed enough training with the grenades, which will cost $25 to $30 each?

Prediction: the OICW will fall short of what it has promised to do, but it will not be possible to kill this program. A compromise of sorts will happen: instead of every soldier getting an OICW, only a few will get them, and the rest will still get an M-16 rifle or M-4 carbine.

atk.com OICW article OICW analysis H&;K article on OICW USA Today article

-- Steve R. Hastings "Vita est" steve@hastings.org http://www.blarg.net/~steveha

I haven't seen this. I'm fairly certain that most soldiers will not carry a 20 pound personal weapon. Plus ammunition. There were some problems with the BAR in WW II, even, and that wasn't this...


This is long and worth reading:

Reading Ullica Segerstrale's book, Defenders of the Truth, I begin to understand some of the issues that get concealed by the politics. I did ESS Theory (the British version of sociobiology) back in the 1980s, and got caught up in the battle. It became strange later, because I found myself in disagreement with the sociobiologists (even though I was one) and in agreement with their critics.

The critics have a real _scientific_ point--if you don't understand the developmental, functional, evolutionary, and/or control mechanisms underlying behavior, you don't understand the causal chain that makes it happen (see Tinbergen). It doesn't matter that you have all sorts of interesting statistical results; you don't really understand it. (By the way, they criticize all 'statistical' fields of science this way.) Your theory has no visible means of support. For example, my dissertation was on sensorimotor behavior in echolocating bats. I tried to connect the model to foundations, but we honestly do not know the following: 1. the detailed neural connections between the ear and the cerebral cortex, 2. how the inner ear functions, 3. how the development of the system is controlled genetically, 4. how sound is encoded, 5. how the system is wired during development, 6. how it evolved, 7. how the system is controlled... Almost everywhere I looked closely, I discovered the current theory was wrong.

Or as I commented elsewhere: "I think that it can be argued that complex systems (in the sense of Rosen, 1985) exist and show emergent higher-level behavior that cannot be predicted by simply modeling lower level processes. However, those lower level processes remain real, and our understanding of the higher-level behavior has to be consistent with them. If we lack valid models of those lower level processes, we will have difficulty formulating higher level models correctly. Or as I kept relearning during my dissertation research:

"It's not what you don't know that will hurt you. It's what you think you know that just ain't so." -- Satchel Paige

A friend comments about models of non-linear processes: "when asked by the King of Belgium, who financed most of his research, whether non-linear dynamics was a marxist theory, Prigogine responded: but it is also a proof of the existence of God ..."

Prigogine's point was (I think) that these models that we love to speculate with (which usually lack firm foundations in the data) are essentially quantized Hegelian dialectic. At the same time, it turns out that we cannot model non-linear systems except in approximation. We cannot create a complete model of a lot of things that we're interested in. The only complete models are the things themselves, that God has made. If Alonzo Church is correct, we _can't_ know those things.

Now to intelligence:

We have statistical results. They suggest that general intelligence (g) is about 50% inherited. We lack an understanding of what general intelligence measures. We don't know how it develops; we don't know how it evolved; we lack a deep understanding of its functions; and we don't know how it is controlled. That suggests we're in danger of making the mistake that Satchel Paige was pointing to. For example, there's some evidence that general intelligence may be controlled by genes inherited from the mother only. <http://www.newscientist.com/ns/970503/features.html>. There's also evidence of maternal effects; for example, it is suspected that fetal alcohol syndrome can be triggered by a single drink at the wrong time. <http://www.aap.org/policy/04358.html>. Third, we don't know how environment interacts with genetics in general, let alone for intelligence, but it's probably highly non-linear and intractable if you try to analyze it. The secular increase in IQ over the last 100 years strongly suggests there's something important going on that we have no understanding of. Not even a clue.

What that means is environment can masquerade as genetics and genetics as environment. Until we tease out the causal chains underlying general intelligence, we should avoid calling our speculations 'scientific', especially when there are politicians, economists, and lawyers in the wings ready to convert those speculations into dumb policy. If you call them 'science fiction', you're doing mankind a favor, because some young researcher is likely to be interested enough to check them out, but please don't call them scientific.

Cheers,

-- --- Harry Erwin, PhD, Computational Neuroscientist (modeling bat behavior), Senior SW Analyst and Security Engineer, and Adjunct Professor of Computer Science, GMU. CV available at: <http://mason.gmu.edu/~herwin/CV.htm>

Mechanistic models are a great deal more satisfying than stochastic equation systems, and often do a better job of prediction: but note that we have not the foggiest understanding of the mechanisms in quantum mechanics, yet the equations predict nicely. No one understands the two-slit phenomenon, and Dick Feynman was at pains to be certain you realize that not only do we not understand the phenomenon, we don't even have the beginnings of a clue, and we may never understand it. Certainly Feynman went to his grave not knowing how the stuff that he got his Nobel for actually works.

There's much the same underlying ignorance in the mechanisms of IQ and success; which is why "g" is often used in scientific conversation, and why serious psychometricians are careful with the word "intelligence".  Yes, IQ may be inherited largely through the mother; yes there may be environmental prenatal factors. On that latter point there almost certainly are, but the prenatal factors generally detract from an inherited upper limit. It's that upper limit that we're concerned about.

If what you are saying is that we are only beginning to understand ourselves in any meaningful scientific way, then, yes, of course, and perhaps that message should be stressed often; but I hope you are not saying that because the results are not politically correct we should give up the search?  

Having spent a good part of my life doing operations research, I can say with some confidence that stochastic models beat holy hell out of guesswork: that knowing what factors you rely on to make decisions is in general a lot better than merely straining like a gearbox and deciding out of the blue...

Then see http://www.kleinbottle.com/ 

 

 

 

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Dr. Pournelle,

An article from the WASHINGTON POST, which appeared in my local paper today, states that scientists have broken the light speed barrier with light. It seems they propogated a light beam into a "box" containing a "special media" and the peak of the beam exited the "box" before it finished entering. Sounds fascinating, but I wonder if they haven't just created a medium with an index of refraction lower than vacuum (??). Also, the question of experimental and measurement errors come up in my mind. However, it is still an interesting experiment. I thought you might like to check on this if you didn't already know.

Bob Doane

I've read the popular press articles. I'm waiting to see what other physicists, particularly Charles Sheffield and Robert Forward think about it. I haven't any special means for looking into this. It sure does make for interesting times, though. 

 

Hi Jerry,

An excellent book on string theory is: The Elegant Universe by Brian Greene. It is written for a non-expert audience and has many easy-to-understand analogies. I'm a mechanical engineer with only a semester course in non-Newtonian physics but I haven't had trouble following along. I realize you're short on time, but it does seem like it would be inspiration for future writings.

Stay well, Jim Laheta

I haven't read that. I have a minor fear that it would make my head explode. Probably not, but alas, there are a lot of books I ought to have read but don't seem to have time for. I still haven't finished the latest Harry Potter, although that one I'll get to before long. And there's this stack of on-line books by colleagues I've got bookmarked. And..  I thought the idea was that things would slow down some day, but they haven't.  Thanks for the pointer.


Defense Spending - Balance?

Jerry,

I was checking the latest Intellectual Capital http://www.intellectualcapital.com/  articles today, and along with your fine piece on the debate over our capability to successfully deploy a national missile defense system http://www.intellectualcapital.com/issues/issue393/item10122.asp , I noticed a related piece in their links section, criticizing defense spending.

I am not knocking your support of the missile defense system, in fact, on most of your points I completely agree with you. But for the public like myself to even feel like supporting these issues, some semblance of balance and proper priorities must be restored to defense spending in general. I have read several commentaries on your site alone regarding basic infantry training, munitions, etc., that point to a lack of basics, let alone sharp ability to keep a multi-billion dollar missile defense program aimed straight (pun intended).

How do we convince the politicians, as well as military brass, that if we are to allocate large amounts of peacetime funds to military spending, -which agreeably needs to be done to keep our guard up and sharp-, there must be a balance of spending, or no one will care, or possibly benefit at all in the long run. Missile defense is only part of the picture, and only draws ire from the public if this is not explained. Maybe some words should be spent proposing the entire balanced picture, better spending (not more) on training, munitions, AND missile defense, also pointing out the job opportunities that could be created for the working sector.

Again, I don't oppose the missile defense program, but check out this article (directions below), for more insight into why so much ire gets raised over the spendy issues like this. -Here's a quote from the piece:

"In case you've forgotten, the bottom line as to why we have a standing military force will always come down to our soldiers' ability to put a slug between the enemy's eyes. But lately, elite Army Green Berets tell me they're not getting enough range time. And range time is what allows these trigger-pullers to sharpen their skills so they can do their deadly job: kill people when they threaten our country or national interests. Across the board, these dedicated men say they're actually not being given the money to buy enough bullets! If this special unit--which normally gets priority over all other fighting outfits--isn't getting the right stuff, then what about the ordinary grunt airmen, sailors, soldiers and Marines who do the sustained hard duty at the point of the spear? If the dough isn't going to the troops who do the fighting and dying, where does the $300 billion go that you and I give to the Pentagon each year? ..." (David Hackworth, 7-20-2000 Fairbanks Daily News-Miner)

The link on their page doesn't seem to work properly for me, possibly due to the obfuscated way the web pages are generated (don't we all just love the way the current crop of database-driven script pages work for following links, etc...), but the article, entitled "Forgotten Mission" can be reached from the home page at http://63.147.65.1/  (The Fairbanks Daily News-Miner), and selecting "Commentary" in the menu on the left...

I wish these issues were debated as hotly as the "showy" ones like missile defense. -Comments?

-P.S. Never see much mention, but I have always enjoyed yours &; Mr. Nivens' "Inferno" -still an entertaining laugh a minute!! Thanks. -Jn- Jeff G Newell, GM/Tech, CompuVision Solutions www.cpuvision.com  mailto:jgnewell@cpuvision.com

The US spends a smaller percentage of its budget on defense now than at any time since before WW II, as I understand it. Money for training was authorized and appropriated. It was spent on adventures in Haiti and Kossovo which were live fire exercises not authorized or appropriated. With this executive we will not get either good training or good policy, much less real defenses that defend. What did you expect?

"If you politicians don't stop wasting our money we'll refuse to defend ourselves and someone else will dictate policy to us, and then you'll be sorry."  Not precisely a rational choice.

Jerry:

Not only do troops not get enough range time and ammunition to practice with, the Army Reserve is doing away with it's competitive shooting teams. The soldiers on the teams helped maintain a core of troops capable of providing marksmanship training to large numbers of recruits and reserves. Now, apparently, the Army Reserve has no requirement for infantry with the ability to supress the enemy by small arms fire.

Regards,

Ross McMicken

This too shall pass. But we have lost a lot over the past 8 years, and much of the splendid military system we had at the end of the Desert War is gone and must be rebuilt. Bismark said that God looks after fools, drunks, and the United States of America. Let's hope so.

Dear Jerry;

While we're on the subject of how countries can supposedly "get around" Ballistic Missile Defense delivering warheads by small plane or Federal Express, has anybody noticed that exactly the same tactics can be used to "get around" MAD?

The essence of MAD is the question, "what country would be suicidal enough to launch a nuke at us, knowing they would be obliterated by American nuclear retaliation?" Ah, but that question contains a hidden assumption: that we /know which country/ launched the missile and can prove it.

Mobile missiles exist. The Soviets had quite a few, and they were always thought to be destabilizing -- giving them a way to avoid retaliation against strategic forces. But imagine this scenario: strapped for cash, Putin or some renegade Russian general sells a few of these mobile nukes to Iraq.

Hussein waits for a good opportunity, say when something happens in the Middle East, and America actually stands up for Israel (obviously this fantasy takes place after January 20th, 2001), something that would create a long list of suspects -- then he rolls the missiles in the dead of night across the border of Iran or Kuwait, or even all the way to Afghanistan, deep inside, and from there, he launches against us. Now where did that missile come from? Even if we realize it wasn't launched by Iran or Kuwait, how do we know who launched it?

Shouldn't be that hard to disguise a missile truck. Put a big shell over it advertising Teheran Falafal, and bribe as many customs officials as necessary.

Suppose we have good intelligence, and we know that Hussein had the missiles and must, therefore, have launched. Would any American president really risk the worldwide cacophany that would result from launching a nuclear attack on a nation that could not readily be shown to have launched such an attack against us? For that matter, would the /American people/ stand for such retaliation on the basis of secret CIA intelligence... especially if Hussein were smart enough to drop the missile, without a warhead but with a "cease and desist" order, into the middle of Montana, so that no Americans were killed.

I suspect the capability for moving a missile and launching it from somewhere else is actually far more readily available than the putative capability to deliver a nuke by Piper Cub (as you say) or FedEx. One more argument for some sort of ballistic missile defense. Some /serious/ sort. --

Dafydd ab Hugh

Man Minus Ear Waives Hearing

Anonymous war doesn't make a lot of sense: how can you hope to gain? The Peacemaker movie in which the motive was pure revenge -- "Leave us alone! Go away!" -- comes close, I suppose. But the organization required to get, conceal, transport, and smuggle in a nuclear weapon is much different from the organization required to acquire a warhead and a missile. Defending against one isn't a defense against the other...

Regarding retaliation, my guess is that you make parking lots out of EVERY country that stood to gain... The Anglo-Saxons are a very war like people, as you Welsh ought to know.


I'm no mathematician, but a friend in undergrad who was pretty decent at it pointed out to me that one implication of Godel's Theorem would be that no human brain could possibly understand the human brain. I took this as a good reason to devote myself to neuropharmacology -- the research opportunities are truly endless!

Tim Herbst

Interesting point I had not thought of. Thank you.


A negative plus a negative equals a negative.

http://www.zdnet.com/sp/stories/news/0,4538,2605191,00.html

Roland Dobbins

It's still an interesting possibility. Thanks.


Dear Dr. Pournelle,

When I served in the US Army, 1956 to 1959, Basic training was excellent and unpleasant. During the remainder of my three years, I had one visit to the firing range, "qualifying" with an M1 carbine. The session was treated as a joke by all present, missile school instructors, and never repeated.

Later, my brother went to Viet Nam as an enlisted man in Military Intelligence. He did not agree with the military that a wounded enemy was better for the US Army than a dead one, because it cost the enemy more to care for him. He found that the .22 varmint rifle cartridge used in the M16 was ineffective against a determined assailant, and went to some trouble to arm himself with a .30 M14 rifle. He is an expert shot with many weapons, and wanted the enemy to know he was dead when hit, not decide it a few minutes or hours later.

Bigger weapons? The enemy's cannons have been able to outrange ours since WWII, and this was still true in the desert conflict. We could not get cannons close enough to hurt Saddam Hussein, because his cannons outranged ours by a considerable margin.

Atom Bomb? A colonel that went ashore to arrange the Japanese surrender wrote a good article that I read in 1997. The atom bomb dropped on Hiroshima did not kill as many people as the firebombing of Tokyo. The Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs did give Hirohito an honorable way to call a halt to the carnage. A very few of his own generals still wanted to fight, but they were rounded up in a day by Japanese forces. The colonel, who had been one of the planners of the Japanese homeland invasion, did his own survey while there. He stated that the US had planned to lose 50,000 troops the first day of the invasion. After looking at the armed and psychologically prepared civilians, he revised that estimate to 500,000 casualties in the first day. Even the Japanese knew they would lose eventually, but the General Staff was determined to make it a very costly victory. Given this information, our atom bombs were a good investment for both sides.

Lastly, I worked with the missile and electronic warfare people for many years. The important things I learned are still classified, but they would not increase your optimism.

Respectfully,

William L. Jones, PE wljones@dallas.net

Well, we did win in the desert... And in WW II for that matter. People have underestimated us before. Thanks


Man, if you want to see something lame, look at

http://support.microsoft.com/support/help/aboutmaxwell.asp 

Ask Maxwell, as I did,

"Why does mem.exe under Win98 show Total Memory as 64MB and Free Memory as 128MB? I have 128. Thanks."

Microsoft is, on the face of it, presenting Maxwell as a human. Cynicism opportunes. It beckons flailingly. I am somehow reminded of an old joke about a defendant who asks the judge, since it is illegal to call a police officer a jackass, whether it is illegal to call a jackass a police officer...

Praeger

I looked at it. Lame is a fairly kind word. Thanks.


Reading your column about rescue disks reminded me of this little bit of software that you might find interesting. It is called CD ROM God and can be found (for now) at:

http://www.gankish.net/rumblesoft/downloads.htm 

Basically, it contains compressed DOS drivers for virtually every major CD ROM on a bootable DOS floppy. If you can pop the hood on your computer to find out who made your CD, you can boot enough of DOS to access your Windows installation disk. Saved me from a deal of grief one time when my rescue disk turned out to have developed a bad sector since I had made it.

Sadly, the distributor appears to be intent on shutting the site down so it may not be available much longer. It is freeware, so probably you'll always be able to track down a copy somewhere on the Internet, but no further development will occur I guess. However, if your system is totally hosed, and you can manage to get to the Internet somewhere (like the library), you can at least reinstall and start over. At least you don't have to remember how to configure the drivers and MSCDEX with all those command line switches.

Paul J. Camp College of Computing Georgia Institute of Technology Atlanta, Georgia 30332 

The beauty of the universe consists not only of unity in variety but also of variety in unity.

--Umberto Eco, The Name of the Rose

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Concerning Harry Erwin's letter:

So, you think clones of a highly intelligent person aren't necessarily going to be highly intelligent? And that we can't predict the result unless we know everything about how genes shape development, the evolutionary origins and purpose of human intelligence, and the secret of Oak Island? Well, that happens not to be the case.

Cloning, is, as far as I know, equivalent to twinning. Identical twins, even those raised apart, have very similar IQs. The correlation between the IQs of identicall twins raised apart is about 0.76. This is higher than we wouild expect from estimates of narrow-sense heritability of IQ; narrow-sense heritability estimates only measure additive effects of alleles. Non additive effects depend on interactions between several alleles, and aren't much transmitted into the next generation, since the sets of alleles get broken up. Identical twins, on the other hand, have the same genomes, and both additive and non-additive effects are duplicated. Maternal genes and paternal genes are of equal importance in determining IQ. The parent-child correlations are almost exactly the same for mothers and fathers. The only way in which clones might be be less similar to their original than identical twins are to each other would be if variations in prenatal environment explained a significant fraction of the variance in IQ This because identical twins share the same uterus, while clones would not. I don't believe this is the case. Certainly kids with the same mother are not significantly more similar than kids with the same father - moreover, all the evidence we have supports the idea that prebirth development is robust, and that a kid's development is insensitive to anything less than a major insult. Whch is why the Dutch draftees who were in utero during the 1944 famine are just as big as other year classes and show no IQ depression.

Next, even if this uncertainly existed, which it does not, it could and would be easily resolved. If a few eccentric rich people clone themselves, we'll know how similar they are to their clones, and we won't need any deeper understanding than that. Where does this idea come from, that we have to understand everything in order to predict or do anything? So we couldn't have domestIcated the horse without first sequencing its genome?

It'll work. If it didn't work, we couldn't have bred border collies to be smart, or developed Guernsey cows that give more milk than any cow every did in Classical times. Medieval farmers didn't have to know a damn thing about the physiology of milk production in order to do this.

Gregory Cochran


I don't know if you've looked at the reader reviews for Burning City over on Amazon lately, but I think someone is trying to sabotage the book. Every few days since 6/30, there's been a 1-star review posted, and they all sound a lot alike to me. I wonder if it's really all the same person using a bunch of aliases. Here I've been thinking that you and Niven were pretty nice folks, and top-notch writers as well. Not so, according to these reviews. You're terrible writers, and racist middle-aged white guys to boot.

I don't know if Amazon has any mechanism to remove what amount to anonymous poison-pen reviews, but if I were you I might contact them to find out. It'd be one thing if that book was a one-off, but these reviews might very well hurt sales of the next books in the series. -- Robert Bruce Thompson

 thompson@ttgnet.com  http://www.ttgnet.com 

Thank you. I expect you are right, but there's little I can do about this, of course. I don't know anyone at Amazon and I doubt they'd much care anyway. I know authors spend a lot of time manipulating their standings at Amazon, but I don't much have time for that, either.

I suppose this is the sort of thing one must get used to. I do thank the readers who liked the book and took the trouble to say so at Amazon.


Thanks to Trent Telenko for this:

Thatcher said to lose round to Argentines in 'war crimes' fight

Source: National Post (Canada) Published: 07/18/2000 Author: Paul Waldie

'The court has resolved that the demand is valid and that the victims of the cruiser Belgrano and their relatives have an argument for compensation and for the extradition of Margaret Thatcher' - lawyer: Sailors' relatives spurred by success of anti-Pinochet case

The European Court of Human Rights has agreed to consider whether Margaret Thatcher, the former British prime minister, committed war crimes during the Falkland Islands war in 1982, an Argentine lawyer says.

Javier Olivera said the court made the ruling at the request of his clients, the families of the 323 Argentine sailors who died when their warship was sunk on May 2, 1982.

"The families of those victims have been waiting years to bring Margaret Thatcher to justice for war crimes and crimes against humanity," Mr. Olivera said in a telephone interview from Buenos Aires.

"The families want compensation, and a condemnation of Margaret Thatcher as well as the extradition of Mrs. Thatcher to Argentine courts so she can be judged, penalized and jailed in Argentina."

I think the implications here are self-evident.


For the brain-IQ details:

Jerry,

http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/science/health/072100hth-brain-development.html 

A number of reviews are attached. Also included is the entire text of the Science article itself and the Sternberg rebuttal.

Best,

-- Louis Andrews Stalking the Wild Taboo http://www.lrainc.com/swtaboo/ 

I will have numerous comments when I catch up a bit.

Jerry, this was posted to the HBES mailing list this morning. Apparently Duncan and his colleagues have correlated general intelligence with the lateral prefrontal cortex. An interesting point is that neurogenesis is known in this region http://www.princeton.edu/pr/news/99/q4/1014-brain.htm  in adult primates. In other words, this region seems to produce new neurons and synapses throughout life.

Harry Erwin

Which has other implications.  Never stop trying...

But see also

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000720/hl/iq_parents_1.html 

Erwin on Cochran

It reads like we're talking past each other. I agree IQ appears to have high heritability based on the twin studies, but we lack even a fair understanding of the mechanisms, and we certainly haven't ruled out maternal effects. My experience is that most theoretical speculation does not survive the first encounter with actual experimental results.

The results of Duncan et al. published today in Science suggest that general intelligence is associated with the lateral frontal cortex, a small region of the neocortex on each side that is involved in working memory. Only one of these regions seems to be used in processing verbal problems, while both are activated for spatial problems. Their relatively small size suggests solving problems using general intelligence is not very important to our genetic fitness.

Those regions of the neocortex are known to have continuous neurogenesis in adult primates. In other words, they are continuously rewiring themselves (like the olfactory system). Rewiring is believed to be associated with plasticity. Is there evidence for plasticity in our use of general intelligence? If so, why do we treat it as innate rather than learned?

Cheers, -- --- Harry Erwin, PhD, Computational Neuroscientist (modeling bat behavior), Senior SW Analyst and Security Engineer, and Adjunct Professor of Computer Science, GMU. CV available at: <http://mason.gmu.edu/~herwin/CV.htm>


From: Lionel Tiger:  > President Clinton struck just > the right note in his press conference when he emphasized that the genome > project reveals that all humans share over 99% of their genes. An immediate > implication is that those differences we have called "racial" are sharply > trivial in the broader scheme of things.

To which Dr. Peter Frost replies:

All humans share over 99% of their DNA sequences but that's not the same as saying that all humans share over 99% of their genes. No one yet knows whether the second statement is true, although it probably isn't. In theory, every single gene could be 1% different between two human populations. And a 1% difference can significantly alter the way a gene functions.

In any case, why would a 1% difference be trivial in "the broader scheme of things"? What is this "broader scheme"? The genetic difference between humans and chimpanzees? That comes to a whopping 2%.

Don't fall for the "little number fallacy." 

Dr. Peter Frost

Groupe d'études Inuit et circumpolaires Pavillon De Koninck Université Laval Sainte-Foy (Québec) G1K 7P4 CANADA L'homme qui veut faire l'ange finit par faire la bête. 

Website: http://pages.globetrotter.net/pfrost

John McCarthy points out much the same thing.

 

 

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Jerry, Michael Dolbear across the pond provides this link regarding Mrs. Thatcher's legal woes viz-a-vis Argentina See http://www.echr.coe.int/eng/PRESS/New%20Court/Belgrano.eng.htm 

thanks, JODY

Thanks. Where does all this end?


I would like to, once again, now that you indicate there is a dvd-disc in your possession with all of your writings on it, suggest you do a how-to-do it writing course, or just a long running how this and/or that was done story utilizing all that stuff. Surely there are many others who enjoy pretty much all of your writings and your telling of the process enough to the point where it could be quite profitable. I am sure it couldn't be cheap, when you think about what all of those books, articles, etc. would cost; but, I can only suggest there would be sufficient numbers who would think it a worthwhile work to pay the price. And, who knows, your selling it direct on disc, even after probably having to pay royalties back to your publishers, might would show Stephen King how this net-publishing stuff should be done.

I am sure just knowing such exists makes Herbert roll over a time or two.

Jesse Farr

Thanks. An interesting suggestion. (It's not a DVD disk, it's only a CDROM; I haven't written THAT much! On the other hand, it has only the material I have recorded since about 1985; older stuff was on paper or on 8" floppies. Some of my older published works have been keyed in from paper copies, so they are in there. Older BYTE columns alas are not, although I have some glass disks with stuff on them, and I may be able to read those.

As to writing courses, I am sure everyone has read the essay on how to get my job...


Jerry,

I saw the comment from Robert Thompson in Mail about the possibility of bogus reviews of The Burning City at Amazon.com. Since I just finished the book last week and loved it, I rushed over to Amazon (virtually, of course) and posted a five-star review. This is only what the book deserves, as you and Larry working together are arguably the best writer in SF or fantasy today, and City is some of your best work ever.

BTW, if you haven't yet, take a look at the Apple web site for the new G4 Cube. Apple may have lost the war to own the corporate desktop, but they certainly are doing some incredible industrial design lately.

Regards, John DeVries

Thanks. As to Apple, I agree completely. One could wish they had awakened earlier, as the road back to a significant place in the graphics arts is now going to be difficult for them -- even five years ago it would have been a lot easier.  I intend to buy a G4 fairly soon, the only problem being to make a place for it.  I used to have a Mac as my "second computer" right next to the main machine, but over the years it got less and less useful in comparison to an NT box, and eventually the 2 I use most changed.  That could change again.

The Mac used to be the right machine for any kind of speech synthesis -- they had the best speech scientists in the world on their research staff -- and the Newton was headed in the right direction, with Don Norman doing the development work. Their problem has always been keeping up in the applications field: the obsession of the company for gouging high profit margins and holding onto control harmed that a lot. Things have changed, and we can hope to see the Mac come back as a significant rival to Windows and Linux boxes...


Jerusalem and the Peace Process:

I am indebted to Moshe Bar for editing the following dialogue into publishable form:

This is an excerpt of a conversation between JerryP and Moshe Bar (a Jewish Israeli himself) on the issues surrounding the peace negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians in Camp David.

Moshe:

Jerry,

I mostly agree with your view on the Camp David talks and the political and security parameters that both sides are taking into consideration.

Over 70% of Israelis (Jewish Israelis, that is) are against giving up whatever insignificant portion of our sovereignty over Jerusalem.

Mr. Barak and his socialist comrades are anyway left alone in governing the country. The coalition with right-wing Shas has failed and the strong people from Likud (ministers Sharon and Levy) as well Sharanski (who speaks for the russian-origin Israelis, about 15% of total) have left him hanging there alone before Barak left for the U.S.

If he in an act of utter stupidity agrees to giving up parts of Jerusalem, he will have to buy his own ticket to return home as he no longer will be prime minister. It is clear that for the Arabs gaining control over limited parts of Jerusalem is only the beginning, but certainly not the end of the long way to Jerusalem.

Jerusalem is the eternal capital of Israel, by historic right, by moral right and by fact. Arafat

Arafat will enter Jerusalem only over my body.

Jerry P.:

But, I understand the negotiations are not over the walled city, but parts outside it, from the old truce line to Bethany; I am told but do not know that there is no negotiation about the walled city itself.

 

Moshe:

Yes, that's true. But the Arabs want all of the City, eventually. The issue at stake is not to let them in (symbolically speaking obviously, they live there already) in the first place.

Barak has little to lose. If he agrees to the Clinton gambit he can go home and say "OK, you are firing me, but all I wanted was peace for Israel." He can keep his face this way.

Any other way, he has to call for early elections anyway AND lose face.

 

Jerry P.:

Good analysis. Want to write up a short mail piece for me to publish? Or of course I could do the letter you just sent, but on a subject like this I won't do it without explicit permission for obvious reasons.

My problem comes from the clinics the Knights of Lazarus run in the Old City. They are run by Christian Arabs who have lived there since forever (originally were one suspects Jews converted to Christianity, but they call themselves Palestinians now) and they have not been well treated: "settlers" have twice taken over their property, and even getting court orders doesn't help as no one will enforce the court order. So there they sit in their third HQ building looking out at buildings we paid for but no longer have possession of.

I understand the problem with the authorities, but I do not think that making enemies of the Christians is a very smart thing to do.

 

Moshe:

Jerry, yes there are a number of these problems in Jerusalem, Nazareth and Tiberias, all venues of importance for the Christian faith. It is my understanding that the Papal visit to Israel earlier this year addressed these issues with Mr. Barak and both Chief Rabbis of Israel (Rabbis Lau and Doron-Bakshish).

Some of the possession problems for buildings and lands go back centuries or at least back to the Ottoman ruling and the British ruling.

I agree with you that the credibility of the Israeli government suffers from failing to resolve these issues quickly.

The mayor of Jerusalem is Mr. Ehud Olmert from the conservative Likud party. Mr. Olmert is a very powerful in Israeli politics and no issue concerning Jerusalem can be decided without his consent. As far as I have seen in these past ten years, the Vatican has not correctly understood this fact and wrongly continues to negotiate the status of these Christian estates with the government instead of with Mr. Olmert.

mb@moelabs.com

www.moelabs.com


Here's an interesting note on some SDI technology. While they may not be doing too well with the ICBMs, it looks like the theatre defense boys are on the ball--they're batting 1.000 in testing the Patriot PAC-3 system.

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000722/ts/arms_patriot_dc_4.html 

Oh, and a note to the other team--consider boost phase intercepts. Slower targets are easier to hit.

Bill Seward

But harder to get to, and the reaction times have to be shorter. It evens out. But I actually worked on BAMBI in my callow youth. (Boost-phase Anti Missile Ballistic Intercept). It was beyond our capability then: not that we couldn't do it, but keeping enough birds in orbit to do it in a timely fashion would have been far too expensive. THAT one we would have lost in an economic confrontation; but a lot can happen in forty years.


In a long discussion in another place this came up, with the title ON MONOLITHIC HUMAN NATURE. I have obtained permission to publish it here:

Robert Holloway of Columbia University Department of Anthropology: On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, Peter Frost wrote:

 > > It's impossible to give a readily understandable answer. The major > differences between the sexes are, in some ways, analogous to those between > human populations. They are due not so much to differences in the actual > genetic material as to differences in the way the same genetic material is > turned on and off (or "expressed", as a geneticist would say). > So I could say, perhaps, that maleness is determined by 0.05% of the human > genome (i.e., on the Y chromosome). But that 0.05% determines how a lot of > other genes are expressed. There is a cascade effect whereby a few regulator > genes determine the expression of many more regulator genes, which determine > the expression of even more regulator genes, which finally determine the > expression of an incredible number of structural genes.

[Holloway] I am so glad to see Dr. Frost step in here and bring some well-needed illumination to this issue of quantifying what cannot yet be quantified in any meaningful sense. Add to these realities mosaicism in the femlae (one X chromsome in different lines inactivated, apparently randomly with regard to whether the X came from the father or the mother), and add some recent findings of maternal/paternal effects. While we could probably estimated the total # of nucleotide base pairs differences between X and y-chromosomes, it would be essentially a meaningless figure.

If 1% differs in nucleotide sequencing between ourselves and chimps, then out of 3.1 billion base pairs, some 30 million are dissimilar. If we discount so-called "junk" and the difference between regulator and structural genes, and assume that on average it takes about 1500 nuceotide base pairs to specify a protein, a gene on avergae would be about 500 base pairs, or 1500 nucleotide in a sequence. An outside estimate might be, then, that about 20,000 genes show some difference between chimp and human (or 30 million divided by 1500). But this tells us nothing about the differences in genetic/developmental terms.

> > [Frost] But here we run into another problem. We know much less about these > regulator genes than we do about junk DNA (which is not expressed) or > structural genes (which are generally of low selective value). This is > partly because structural proteins in the blood or tissues are much easier > to measure than the small amounts of protein that flow from a regulator gene > to its target site. It's also because "neutral genes" are more interesting > to researchers who want to reconstruct the prehistory of human populations. > Such genes are more likely to accumulate mutations at a constant rate and > thus "clock" the divisions and migrations of ancestral humans.

[Holloway] This is a tremendously important point, much of which is totally misunderstood by most science journalists, and those not involved in molecular genetics.

> > [Frost] So, in the absence of data, we extrapolate from genes of low selective > value and assume that genes of high selective value show the same geographic > patterns of variation. Variability in low-value "junk genes", however, is > much less likely to be weeded out by natural selection. It tends to > accumulate within populations exposed to similar conditions of life and > similar selection pressures. Conversely, high-value genes are more > likely to vary between populations exposed to differing conditions of life > and differing selection pressures (e.g., at boundaries between > ecological niches or zones).

[Holloway] To which might be added, that when we do make comparisons we make them on the basis of what we have thus far detected, which is but a very tiny proportion of the total gene set within/between any population.

> >[Frost]  Predictably, junk genes tell us there is much more variability within > populations than between populations. This is true when we look at humans. > It's also true when we look at different breeds of dogs. Even dogs in > general cannot be reliably distinguished from wolves and coyotes on the > basis of mtDNA and other genetic markers. >

Amen.

> [Frost] The extrapolation is inherently flawed. Yet its conclusions have become > something of a mantra for many people out there: "There are no races, there > are only clines..."

And how. This variation, and how it differs amongst different breeding populations of the world is the most important genetic heritage we possess, and instead of trying to snuffle it out with denials that it exists, the species would be far better off understanding it, and treasuring it.

Ralph L. Holloway Dept. Anthropology Columbia University


 

 

 

 

 

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A lazy day: exercise and a nice dinner.

Jerry,

Just read today's Chaos Manor entry which mentions a Jef Raskins. The only Jef Raskins I know of who might be making public comments is the fellow who was part of the original Macintosh team at Apple.

In fact, many (including himself) credit Jef with the original concept for the Mac. It was only a bit later that Steve Jobs latched onto the project and turned it into what was eventually produced.

Does any of this qualify Jef to comment intelligently on defense issues? Not to the best of my knowledge.

(I wonder sometimes how your total word count, what with fiction, fact, Chaos Manor, Byte columns, Intellectual Capital, etc., compares with other authors? I had in mind specifically that giant of production, Isaac Asimov.)

Keep up the good work. -- Norman Ferguson Network Consultant/Thespian

Actually I knew that, but and I suppose I let my odd sense of humor get away from me. He's still  dead wrong about Strategic Defense. Thanks for the kind words. 

 

 

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